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					Episode 8, Fashions The eighth episode, Fashions, looks at the way Douglas's music changed over time, and how it has fared amid the shifting sands of fashion. From music for film and theatre to electronic music, via excursions into 12-tone serial technique, Douglas navigated a sure course in his composition without foundering on the rocks of the avant-garde. Sir William Southgate and Jack Body talk about Douglas's sensitivity to criticism, the public reaction to some of his music, and the move away from writing for human performance to composing electronic music. Philip Norman discusses the crucial second period in Douglas's music, and the distinctive patterns that come through. John Hopkins reflects on the parallel development of Douglas's music, with that of the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra. Helen Young describes how Broadcasting supported and exported Douglas's music. And Dean Major talks about Douglas creating his own musical voice. People who feature in Episode 8: Peter Vere-Jones, Sir William Southgate, Dean Major, Philip Norman, Ashley Heenan, Geoff Eyles, Chris Bourke, John Hopkins, Helen Young, Richard Campion, Jack Body and Dorothy McKegg. Broadcasts:     2pm, Sunday 25th July 2004 nationwide on Concert FM. Duration: 53'17 Reference (sometimes media) numbers are listed next to archival material that can be sourced from Sound Archives/Nga Taonga Korero [SA/NTK] or the Alexander Turnbull Library, National Library of New Zealand/Te Puna Matauranga o Aotearoa [ATL]. 00:00 Music: Opening music from Cornet Rilke (1950), produced by the New Zealand Broadcasting Service and performed by the Alec Lindsay Quartet with Maria Dronke reading the poetry of R.M. Rilke, recorded in 1950 [SA/NTK]. 00:50 Peter Vere-Jones: Reading "Musical Opinion, London" letter to the New Zealand Listener, 1 February 1957. 01:30 Sir William Southgate: Sensitive to criticism. 02:40 Dean Major: Shifting into the electronic music medium. Underscored by String Quartet in E minor (1946), performed by the Schola Musica Quartet, recorded in 1978 [SA/NTK 14382]. 04:25 Sir William Southgate: Some people said "What a pity". 05:10 Music: Poem in Time of War (electronic with voice of Vietnamese student, 1967) [SA/NTK 14453]. 05:39 Music: Climbing the Glacier from the National Film Unit production of Journey For Three (1948), recorded in 1948 [SA/NTK TANZA CL2]. 06:06 Philip Norman: Distinctive patterns in Douglas's music. Underscored by the Race Meeting from the National Film Unit production of Journey For Three (1948), recorded in 1948 [SA/NTK TANZA CL3]. 09:55 Ashley Heenan: Lack of support from management at the National Film Unit in the 40's. Archival talk recorded in 1980 [SA/NTK 14440]. 10:50 Audio: Promotional disc for Journey for Three (1948) featuring actors: Margaret McNulty, Elizabeth Armstrong, Stewart Pilkington and Bob Renner who are portrayed as British immigrants in the film, plus music by Douglas Lilburn, recorded ca. 1950 [SA/NTK D-576/1-4]. 15:45 Peter Vere-Jones: Reading "A Birthday Offering" letter to the New Zealand Listener, 7 December 1956. Underscored by A Birthday Offering (1956), performed by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra conducted by Sir William Southgate, recorded in 1995 [Radio New Zealand DAT 962308]. 16:35 Philip Norman: Second musical period. Underscored by Suite for Orchestra (1955), performed by the National Orchestra conducted by James Robertson, recorded in 1957 and Symphony No. 3 (1961), performed by the New Zealand Broadcasting Corporation National Orchestra conducted by John Hopkins, recorded live at the premiere performance in Wellington, 31 July 1962 [SA/NTK 14299 and 14263]. 21:00 Sir William Southgate: Audience reaction to Symphony No. 3. Underscored by Sonatina (1946), performed by Barry Margan, recorded in 1975 [SA/NTK 14420]. 23:30 Dean Major: Douglas was ignored in the 60's. 24:25 Ashley Heenan: Listening at the back of the hall. Underscored by Diversions for String Orchestra (1947), performed by the Alex Lindsay String Orchestra, recorded in 1956 [SA/NTK 14297]. 26:45 Ashley Heenan: Writing an easy on Diversions for String Orchestra. Archival interview extracted from programme six of The Lilburn Connection recorded in 1980 [SA/NTK TX-1140]. Underscored by Diversions for String Orchestra (1947), performed by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra conducted by Georg Tintner, recorded in 1977 [SA/NTK 14334]. 28:50 Geoff Eyles: Reflecting on recording sessions that Douglas attended. 30:04 Chris Bourke and Douglas: What was the attitude to New Zealand composers? Archival interview recorded in 1985 for the Listener. A complete transcript of this interview is available. 32:11 John Hopkins: Douglas's development has run parallel with that of the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra. Archival talk recorded in 1965 [SA/NTK 14547]. 32:53 Geoff Eyles: Recording the Schola Musica, remembering the gardens. 34:18 Music: Occasional Pieces for Piano (1942-73), performed by Margaret Nielsen (piano), recorded in 1981 [SA/NTK 14358]. 35:28 Helen Young: "Broadcasting" supported and exported Douglas's music overseas. Underscored by A Song of Islands (originally titled Song of the Antipodes, 1946), performed by the New Zealand Symphony Orchestra conducted by John Hopkins, recorded in 1985 [SA/NTK 14341]. 38:40 Sir William Southgate: Changing the name of Song of the Antipodes, (1946). Archival talk extracted from Sounds from the South recorded in 1980 [SA/NTK 15943]. 40:20 Richard Campion and Douglas: Relationship with the orchestra. Archival interview recorded in 1989 [SA/NTK 14477]. Underscored by Allegro for Strings (1942), performed by the Alex Lindsay String Orchestra conducted by Douglas Lilburn [SA/NTK 14532]. 41:52 Douglas Lilburn: Composing has become more difficult for me. Archival interview recorded in 1975 [SA/NTK 14560]. 42:35 Peter Vere-Jones: Reading "Kitten on the Keys" letter to the New Zealand Listener, 1949. 43:35 Jack Body: Very sensitive about his personal life being made public. Underscored by No. 12 from Seventeen Pieces for Guitar (1969-70), performed by Michael Calvert (guitar), recorded in 1983 [SA/NTK 14385]. 46:45 Philip Norman: Douglas's music was reserved, reticent. Underscored by Introduction and Allegro for Strings (1942), performed by the Schola Musica conducted by Ashley Heenan, recorded in 1981 [SA/NTK 14422]. 49:57 Dean Major: Creating his own musical voice. 51:00 Music: From The Port Hills, performed by Margaret Nielsen (piano), recorded in 1981 [SA/NTK 12340]. 52:24 Dorothy McKegg: Production Credits.